Sport Pilot Certificate Upgrade to Private, related to Knowledge Test
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This is a specific question:
I have already passed the Private Pilot Knowledge Test.  
Have training hours toward PP certificate. 
If I complete the training for and get a Sport Certificate prior to the PP Knowledge Test expiring and I then want to do the additional training for PP certificate and it's passed the original expiration date of the PP Knowledge Test, 
will I have to do any more testing related to Knowledge in order to complete training for and get the PP Certificate. 
I understand that there would be an additional checkride involved. 
Thanks, 
Tom





 
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Yes.  From 61.101:
 

(c) A person who holds a recreational pilot certificate may act as pilot in command of an aircraft on a flight that exceeds 50 nautical miles from the departure airport, provided that person has—

(1) Received ground and flight training from an authorized instructor on the cross-country training requirements of subpart E of this part that apply to the aircraft rating held;

(2) Been found proficient in cross-country flying; and

(3) Received from an authorized instructor a logbook endorsement, which is carried on the person's possession in the aircraft, that certifies the person has received and been found proficient in the cross-country training requirements of subpart E of this part that apply to the aircraft rating held.

Those "cross-country training requirements of subpart E of this part" refer to the cross-country elements of aeronautical knowledge and flight proficiency sections of the Private Pilot subpart.
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Thanks for the valuable information.
One final (?) question related to the Recreational Certificate --
Is there an endorsement available after training that would allow cross country travel farther than 50 miles from an airport where you've trained?

 
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Hoss At AOPA:
Each of the certificates have their own aeronautical knowledge test; Private, Sport and Recreational. Depending on which one you go for, you'll have to have the correct knowledge test report. The tests are not interchangeable.

The one exception to that is the holder of a Recreational Pilot certificate going for Private in the same aircraft category, who takes a special "Transition" test of only 30 questions vice the usual 60, which only asks about the additional material for Private not covered by the Recreational test.  Unfortunately, there is no such Transition test for Sport Pilots upgrading to Private -- they have to take the full, 60-question regular PP written.

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Thomas Lundin:
Thanks to the gentlemen that answered an earlier question.
This further asks what Knowledge Test is required for a Recreational Certificate.
I have 24 hrs dual training toward PP, but am considering opting for Recreational Certificate, primarily based on the type of flying I would expect to do and the cost involved. 
I think I have the required cross country, but still need the solo and practical test prep hours, which would get me over the 30 hrs minimum. 
Any estimate what additional hours would be necessary beyond basic Recreational to be able to fly in other than Class G&E. 
Based on the answer re: Knowledge Test above, I sure I can check with local CFI regarding these questions. 
Thanks,
Tom 

Hi Thomas,

Each of the certificates have their own aeronautical knowledge test; Private, Sport and Recreational. Depending on which one you go for, you'll have to have the correct knowledge test report. The tests are not interchangeable.

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I think I could get a Rec Pilot through the ground and flight training required by 61.101(d) for operations in B/C/D airspace in about half a day provided there was an appropriate airport/airspace nearby.
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Thanks to the gentlemen that answered an earlier question.
This further asks what Knowledge Test is required for a Recreational Certificate.
I have 24 hrs dual training toward PP, but am considering opting for Recreational Certificate, primarily based on the type of flying I would expect to do and the cost involved. 
I think I have the required cross country, but still need the solo and practical test prep hours, which would get me over the 30 hrs minimum. 
Any estimate what additional hours would be necessary beyond basic Recreational to be able to fly in other than Class G&E. 
Based on the answer re: Knowledge Test above, I sure I can check with local CFI regarding these questions. 
Thanks,
Tom