Logbook entry made in pencil.
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Logbook entries to satisfy the required time for an instrument rating. Are logbook entries (pic, x-c, etc.) made in pencil -- Legal?

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@Paul Lindberg

There is no FAA regulation on point, and technically you can be held to a contract written and signed in pencil.  However, due to the vulnerability of such a document to post-signature alteration, the general standard for paper legal documents is pen-and-ink.  For electronic records for the FAA, AC 120-78A (the FAA standard for electronic records) requires that the electronic recordkeeping system automatically erase the e-signature if any subsequent alteration is made to the entry.  I suspect that if you presented penciled entries to an Inspector to support an FAA requirement, they'd make you ink them in and then sign each page in ink.  And they'd likely want any instruction entries to be inked and then re-signed by the instructor.

For those reasons, as a CFI, there's no way I'd make or sign a penciled entry, nor would I endorse someone for a practical test or sign an 8710-1 based on required logbook entries made or signed in pencil.

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@Ronald Levy Thank you. I also have never seen this. I have an instrument-airplane student who has 4 pages of logbook entries in pencil. I wondered what could be done with this to satisfy a DPE. He also has kept a e-logbook in foreflight but my endorsements and II training are inked into the paper logbook. So if he inked in the entries and signed the page (backed up with the foreflight logbook would satisfy a DPE? Appreciate your imput. Paul Lindberg
 

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@Paul Lindberg
I should think that would do it But it wouldn't hurt to run this past the DPE ahead of time So there are no surprises on checkride day.  BTW, did you e-sign the entries in the Foreflight logbook?  Foreflight does meet the AC120-78A standards.

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@Ronald Levy - All of my II logbook entries are written in his actual logbook. The pencil entries are from the PP checkride till he started with me recently. I have never used an e-logbook. But the fact that his flights are in foreflight because he used it to fly and complete the flights should back up the validity of the flying. There is no doubt in my mind that he actually did it.  I have no idea if Foreflight is a legal logbook?? Just to be clear his flights are 1. pencil entry in the traditional logbook and also in a e- logbook of Foreflight.  4 pages and about 60 hours. Your idea might be the only most logical way to proceed. Thanks again!